Talk:Doom Construction Kit (book)

Relationship between the book and the editor
The relationship between the book and the editor is actually a bit... problematic. I don't have a copy of the cover CD myself, but judging by the disc image that can be found on archive.org, it is true that the disc contained the Ben Morris DCK editor, under the "extras" folder. However, the text of the book is not about using DCK, the editor. It's instead about DEU alongside some non-map utilities (DMAUD, DMMUS, DMGRAPH, DeHackEd). At no point does the book's text appear to cover anything about how to use the DCK software. Because of this, I would suggest splitting coverage of the book from coverage of the editor. -- ETTiNGRiNDER (talk) 13:59, 18 December 2018 (CST)


 * Agreed; we do not cover disjoint topics in the same article only because their titles happen to be the same. --Quasar (talk) 19:11, 19 December 2018 (CST)

Renaming
In my opinion, the editor of the same name (DCK) is much more significant than the book. I propose to rename the article about the book into "The Doom Construction Kit: Mastering and Modifying Doom" (its full name) or "Doom Construction Kit (book)" (shorter and easier to find), and rename DCK into "Doom Construction Kit". --Nockson (talk) 14:48, 11 September 2023 (CDT)
 * Agreed, makes the most sense to me. --Dynamo128 (talk) 15:04, 11 September 2023 (CDT)
 * ADDITION: Looks like there are two editions of the book with almost the same name (the only difference is the absence of "the"). So IMO it is better to rename the article about the book into "Doom Construction Kit (book)". --Nockson (talk) 15:13, 11 September 2023 (CDT)
 * Is the editor better known as DCK or as Doom Construction Kit? If the former, then no renaming is needed. Optionally the book article could still be renamed, with "Doom Construction Kit" then redirecting to DCK instead of the book. If the latter, then I guess the initial proposal makes sense. --Xymph (talk) 15:27, 11 September 2023 (CDT)
 * It is a difficult question. I (being a complete stranger in the Doom community) think that most people know it as DCK just because it is an abbreviation and thus shorter and easier to write and say. Another thing I noticed: Ben Morris (the author of DCK) stopped calling it by a full name in the documentation for later versions (probably because DOOM is a trademark or something). So, as much as I want the article to use a full name, I must agree that DCK must remain there it is, and this page should be made redirect to DCK. --Nockson (talk) 15:44, 11 September 2023 (CDT)